So we're taking on a pretty controversial topic, but one that has been talked about a lot in the blog-o-sphere, and something we have touched on tangentially in the past.

Here is the list of articles we discuss during the podcast:

• CFML 2012: State of the Platform
• State of ColdFusion Platform in 2012
• CFML - Too Little, Too Late?
• Sean said that Nick said that Fusion Authority said...
• Coldfusion and the law of dialectics of progress
• Thoughts on "Coldfusion and the law of dialectics of progress" by Stofke on wheels
• The Last cf.Objective(ANZ)

We talk about our perception of the decline of CFML, specifically in Australia and globally, as well as thoughts on whether or not CFML as a whole can pull out of it, what we think the major CFML backers can do about it, and what we think you should be thinking about as a developer in the CFML community.

We expect this to invoke some differing opinions - so while we welcome the discourse, please remember to be civil.

In this episode we are joined by the venerable Mark Drew where we talk about his favourite features in Railo 4, what his favourite IDE is and the interesting relationship between Adobe ColdFusion and Railo's CFML engine.

It's an interesting conversation all around, and live talks often are, including plenty of audience participation.

Kai also admits to his strange relationship with cats.

Update from Kai: Towards the end of the episode there's a bit of an uproar in regards to Cats that look like Pinups. Please note that the content might or might not offend you. You've been warned